Posts by Madame Quixote

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Is shunning getting more intense - visited non-jw relative at jw compound

by Madame Quixote in

my jw family, with whom i no longer attempt any sort of contact, lives about 20 miles away and have their own little riverfront "compound" of sorts - several adjoining properties owned almost exclusively by jws, with some rentals to various "interested ones.

" i think the renters usually move away when they become disinterested and none have fully converted to the jws yet, lol!

i guess spending a year or so around my jw family innoculates them with some sort of cult immunity.

Madame Quixote

My jw family, with whom I no longer attempt any sort of contact, lives about 20 miles away and have their own little riverfront "compound" of sorts - several adjoining properties owned almost exclusively by JWs, with some rentals to various "interested ones." I think the renters usually move away when they become disinterested and none have fully converted to the jws yet, LOL! I guess spending a year or so around my jw family innoculates them with some sort of cult immunity.

Anyway, my mom's non-jw siblings (whom I rarely see) were there, staying at my jw grandmoter's. She (my grandmother) tells them that she does not believe in shunning (but this non-belief seems only to exist when my favorite aunts & uncle are visiting her. Probably because she gets plenty good harassment from them about how stupid the policy is; unfortunately, she also gets it from my jw relatives after the nons leave).

I don't go around her or the rest of the jw family due to the harassment she gets and because of the headaches (in sadness and anger) that it causes me. It's such a bizarre situation. My sister lives next door to my grandmother and when my aunt and I (with Grandma), came outside for a walk and started to pass by her house, my sis hopped in her car and drove off (although I had no intention of visiting with her anyway). My grandma also suddenly decided to go back indoors as we got past my sis's driveway (probably because she was chilly, but who knows).

My aunt remarked how weird it all was that neither my mom, dad, brother or sister even would speak to me the whole time I was there; I did see my baby brother ogling my bumpersticker that reads:

"Stop Watchtower Abuse www.silentlambs.org freeminds.org." That was the first I realized that he was even in town.

I'm sure they all saw the bumpersticker and are completely scandalized by my apostasy,(teeheehee). Imagine such an apostate's vehicle parked at the top of a jw compound's road for all to see, all day, two days this week! Thanks grandma. You're alright!

BTW, I think a jw elder was sortof stalking me while I was shopping the other day (before I visited the compound). He kept walking past me, over and over at the wine section while I was trying to choos a wine, and just happened to check out at the same time that I did, and happened to be parked at the same section of the parking lot I was parked in (at an enormous superstore parking lot). I'm going to have to start paying attention to this sort of thing now, I guess; I'll bring my picture phone and start taking pics of these guys if it continues. Has anyone else had experiences like this after displaying the anti Watchtower bumper stickers?

I wonder if the extreme shunning at the family compound is partly due to the bumper sticker, or has the WT society come down really hard lately on shunning? This is the first visit where I actively made a firm decision to speak with no JWs even if approached by them, esp. my immediate family. My grandma is the exception because she made the exception to allow me in her home; although I expected she'd be gone on the second day (as she was on the first). On the first day, we went out hiking and winetasting (in a different vehicle) and left my car parked in my grandma's drive; when the JWs got home from Sunday meeting, they saw my car, (with its apostate bumper sticker), and just drove past, to my parents' and stayed there all day, thinking I was in the grandma's house.

I thought it was sad when I realized what had happened and made a remark about it to my aunts and uncle, something like, "I knew she went over to my parents' to take a nap because she - (or my parents) - is afraid of being contaminated by my apostasy." The aunts & uncle did not pick up on it until I made the remark. I did not belabor the point and thought it had been ignored.

However, I think someone (non-jws) must have had another showdown with my parents and grandmother over shunning me, which always happens when I try to visit my aunts or uncle. The jws know it's wrong and don't want to have to keep explaining it to people who "don't understand Jehovah's way;" and by their standards, my grandma is "weak", but by my standards, she is strong. To face down my overbearing JW parents and let me visit her is quite something; however, it worries me (for her well-being). I hope she is not caused to suffer shunning or some sort of reproof because of all this nonsense. I don't think she would tell anyone on the outside if such a thing happened to her because of the strong need to protect the society.

My mom & grandmom were planning to go out when I came to visit my aunty again on Tuesday, but mom cancelled out, claimed illness and left grandma at home with us. I had previously made it clear that I did not want to hang out at my grandmother's due to all of the nonsense it causes, but Tuesday's weather was bad and the only things to do together would have involved outdoor activities, so we just hung out at grandma's, ate, and watched movies the society would definitely not approve of, LOL! I'm sure grandma won't be discussing them out in field service, unless it is to illustrate the damaging effects of worldly associations! My aunt said,"Oh, mom, I'm contaminating your mind." We all agreed that the use of the "F" word in "Crash" was somewhat distracting; and my aunty thought "The Human Stain" was one of the best movies she ever saw. And grandma didn't ask us to turn off the naked dancing scenes.

BTW, my aunty and grandmom informed me that my parents are going to be forced off their property due to some "imminent domain" issue; the state has plans to install a port on their compound. I know I should be sad for them, but it fills my little heart with glee. They will have to see their dream home demolished for the sake of a state port. I think I'm going to apply for a job working for the wrecking crew. Not nice, am I? Well, neither are they.

I decided that I will not go visit anyone in the vicinity of my jw family any more after this last visit. I'll visit the non-jw relatives on my terms from now on, or not at all. The JWs will not make the rules for us any longer, at least not for me.

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MEMORIAL blood drive

by Anni in

hello everyone, i am new to this forum, a 38 year old x jw, raised in and i and left it as a teen.

i want to start a new way to celebrate the 'memorial'- by donating blood.

this year the jws will celebrate the memorial on april 12, and i paln to mark the day by donating a pint of whole blood to my local blood bank.

Madame Quixote

I think I will try to do that - donate blood on the Memorial. It's a great idea to choose the Memorial day on which to do it. Thanks for reminding us of the importance of donating blood (on any day). I haven't done it in years due to vein problems, but it's such a good thing to do. It usually takes me 10 times longer to donate blood than anyone else in the clinic because of tiny veins in my arms. I don't remember it hurting much at all, just making me woozy. I passed out once trying to donate too, but only for a second or two. Maybe I'll try it again on April 12.

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HOT & TIGHT JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

by DannyHaszard in

2 peter 2:21-22

21it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them.

22of them the proverbs are true: "a dog returns to its vomit," and, "a sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud.

Madame Quixote

Yeah. I wonder, are there any stats on how much money The Artist Formerly Known As Prince donates to the organization formerly known as . . . Bible Students?

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Are there any East Coast Carolinians Here?

by Madame Quixote in

jw
friends

i was just wondering because i haven't been able to locate any ex-jws in my area.

the closest groups are a hundred or two miles away.

i'm close to myrtle beach, sc.

Madame Quixote

I was just wondering because I haven't been able to locate any ex-jws in my area. The closest groups are a hundred or two miles away. I'm close to Myrtle Beach, SC. . . . Don't travel much, but love the outdoors, esp. the mountains.

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42 LOGICAL FALLACIES (of the con artist)

by DannyHaszard in

ad hominem

ambiguity

also known as equivocation.

Madame Quixote

Oh, so very 42-itous! Danny, you should get paid for all this stuff you do. Thanks. This is great to review and share.

See'em at the Memorial, 4-12-06, & bring the "funny money" featured at:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/109507/1.ashx

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WATCHTOWER MONEY - New contribution program!

by Severus in

watchtower money serves two purposes: to protest the policies of jehovah's witnesses and educate the public about the hidden side of the watchtower society.

consider this a sophisticated form of guerilla protest and awareness campaign.

each bill or check is designed to get the attention of the beholder and quickly provide information.

Madame Quixote

Edited:

Okay, I just checked at the official JW site - (first time I've been there - it is nauseating).

I had to wade through and through a bunch of Jesus propaganda to get the date: April 12.

I think those of us who live in metro areas or areas where there is more than 1 KH should go KH-hopping on April 12 and leave funny money donations at all of them.

I wonder if I need to get a permit to leave anti-jw lit on people's cars?

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WATCHTOWER MONEY - New contribution program!

by Severus in

watchtower money serves two purposes: to protest the policies of jehovah's witnesses and educate the public about the hidden side of the watchtower society.

consider this a sophisticated form of guerilla protest and awareness campaign.

each bill or check is designed to get the attention of the beholder and quickly provide information.

Madame Quixote

How about a national yearly (or monthly) campaign where we go to the Memorial (and weddings and funerals and such) just to drop off the funny money? I love it! I can't wait to print some out and bring it to all the local KH's for the memorial. Hallelujah.

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Documents--Volume-1

by Atlantis in

also found here:

Madame Quixote

Atlantis - That is a fabulous lot of links to docs! I would like permission to post those at my JW Link Index, soon to be posted on my webblogs. Wonderful work! How would you like it credited?

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Any news on the so-called documentary, "Knocking"

by Madame Quixote in

we should do our own "knockumentary.

last i heard, it was being shown at some relatively unknown film fest.

that's a far cry from sundance, now isn't it?

Madame Quixote

You can vote 1 (awful) through 10 for this so-called documentary, "Knocking," at IMDb:

http://www.imdb.com/Vote

They're waiting for 5 or more votes to post it on their daily thingy.

It takes about a minute or 2 to register at IMDb, but if you do, you can comment and vote (pro or con on Knocking).

Go see and guess how I voted, heh heh.

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Any news on the so-called documentary, "Knocking"

by Madame Quixote in

we should do our own "knockumentary.

last i heard, it was being shown at some relatively unknown film fest.

that's a far cry from sundance, now isn't it?

Madame Quixote

Oops. Somehow, editing caused a double post. See below.